Emptiness

What is our responsibility to ourselves and others? | J. Krishnamurti  Some cool stuffs:  K mentioned India pop 800m without social security... One child vs 3-4... The word 'responsibility' is very complex (as many other word :)

 This is the last talk. We were talking about the art of living yesterday. I think we ought to go much more into it. Most of us have given very little thought to that, we have hardly enquired into the nature of what life is, and how to live it. Our daily life, with all its ugly turmoil, passing pleasures, and a great deal of entertainment, both religious and otherwise. We have studied almost all the academic subjects, spent years to become a doctor, a surgeon or an engineer, and the engineer never asks how. He has studied perhaps five or six years, has learnt a great deal of information, stresses, strains and the material and so on - he never asks how to build a bridge, because that is his job. But we, ordinary people like us, we are always asking how. How am I to live a life without any conflict, without any of the problems that are involved in our daily unfortunate lives. We are always striving, reaching out, getting somewhere, and when a question, a challenge is put before you, ...

 http://www.journal.kfionline.org/issue-15/the-art-of-parenting https://www.dailygood.org/story/1825/what-future-does-man-have-david-bohm-and-j-krishnamurti/ For most of us, relationship with another is based on dependence, either economic or psychological. This dependence creates fear, breeds in us possessiveness, results in friction, suspicion, frustration. http://www.ibe.unesco.org/sites/default/files/krishnamurtie.pdf Chapter 66 - Without responsibility there is no freedom From "The Whole Movement of Life is Learning"

 Intellectual understanding is really not understanding at all; it is only a series of words, and we think we understand those words and the content of those words, and we seem to think we understand the idea intellectually. But what you hear is unrelated to daily action, to a total limit, and communion is only possible when there is a direct relationship: communication then becomes much more interesting, much more vital, more significant, meaningful. https://jkrishnamurti.org/content/being-alone-means-being-innocent-0

https://www.amazon.com/Ending-Time-Where-Philosophy-Physics/dp/0062360973  2.0 out of 5 stars scattered and utterly uncritical Reviewed in the United States on December 17, 2019 Verified Purchase This book was terrible, and I disappointed because both men are well known and should be better than this. The book is filled with un-examined metaphors taken literally and far too much gratuitous agreement, particularly on Bohm's part. Krishnamurti surely represents Hindu and Buddhist metaphysics (the big emptiness) correctly, but that does not mean that the Buddhists or Hindus are correct, and there isn't really the slightest challenge here. Even audience questions rarely challenge his view and when they do, he merely says (more or less) "no you're wrong" and moves on. Nothing is accomplished here other than the generation of one metaphor from another... Not worth your time. 2.0 out of 5 stars A disappointing read. Reviewed in the United States on July 9, 2019 Verified ...

 https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/536593-most-of-us-waste-this-extraordinary-thing-called-life-we “Most of us waste this extraordinary thing called life. We have lived forty or sixty years, have gone to the office, engaged ourselves in social activity, escaping in various forms, and at the end of it, we have nothing but an empty, dull, stupid life, a wasted life. Now, pleasure has created this pattern of social life. We take pleasure in ambition, in competition, in acquiring knowledge or power, or position, prestige, status. And that pursuit of pleasure as ambition, competition, greed, envy, status, domination, power is respectable. It is made respectable by a society which has only one concept: that you shall lead a moral life, which is a respectable life. You can be ambitious, you can be greedy, you can be violent, you can be competitive, you can be a ruthless human being, but society accepts it, because at the end of your ambition, you are either so called successful man with pl...

 https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2013/aug/10/stop-minding-psychology-oliver-burkeman Krishnamurti went on to give countless talks at which he frequently implied that his audience shouldn't be wasting their time listening to spiritual talks. But perhaps the most striking was a 1977 lecture in California. "Part-way through this particular talk," writes Jim Dreaver, who was present, "Krishnamurti suddenly paused, leaned forward and said, almost conspiratorially, 'Do you want to know what my secret is?' " (There are several accounts of this event; details vary.) Krishnamurti rarely spoke in such personal terms, and the audience was electrified, Dreaver recalls. "Almost as though we were one body we sat up… I could see people all around me lean forward, their ears straining and their mouths slowly opening in hushed anticipation." Then Krishnamurti, "in a soft, almost shy voice", said: "You see, I don't mind what happens....