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Where there is the possibility of pain there is no love

 Where there is the possibility of pain there is no love

The questioner wants to know how he can act freely and without self-repression when he knows his action must hurt those he loves. You know, to love is to be free; both parties are free. Where there is the possibility of pain, where there is the possibility of suffering in love, it is not love, it is merely a subtle form of possession, of acquisitiveness. If you love, really love someone, there is no possibility of giving him pain when you do something that you think is right. It is only when you want that person to do what you desire or he wants you to do what he desires, that there is pain. That is, you like to be possessed; you feel safe, secure, comfortable; though you know that comfort is but transient, you take shelter in that comfort, in that transience. So each struggle for comfort, for encouragement, really but betrays the lack of inward richness; and therefore an action separate, apart from the other individual naturally creates disturbance, pain and suffering; and one individual has to suppress what he really feels in order to adjust himself to the other. In other words, this constant repression, brought about by so-called love, destroys the two individuals. In that love there is no freedom; it is merely a subtle bondage.

https://jkrishnamurti.org/content/suffering-and-love-0

So no killing, which means to live on things that you have to kill, like vegetables - you have to kill (laughs) - you understand? - but not to kill animals. When there is this sense of compassion - you understand? - then you don't kill a thing - by word, by gesture, by an idea.

This part seem not OK.


So what we are saying is: in the understanding of relationship love comes into being, and in the understanding of love we alter the structure of society, and there is an ending to sorrow. And it is only then there is compassion. You know compassion is the most extraordinary thing in life, because there is no 'me' who is compassionate, there is only that state of compassion which is not mine of yours.

Oh this very best part seem I've read/heard before. But somehow it feel like new.


https://jkrishnamurti.org/content/what-our-responsibility

https://jkrishnamurti.org/content/chapter-66-without-responsibility-there-no-freedom




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