Small Group Discussion 2 in Gstaad, 16 August 1964
To see the fact is one of the most difficult things to do. I know when I am lying - full stop - it is a fact. To see the fact requires a great sense of humility. Only a free mind can see the fact.
https://jkrishnamurti.org/content/see-fact-one-most-difficult-things-do-i-know-when-i-am-l
https://jkrishnamurti.org/content/series-i-chapter-37-idea-and-fact
The idea is more important to us than the fact; the concept of what one should be has more significance than what one is. The future is always more alluring than the present. The image, the symbol, is of greater worth than the actual; and on the actual we try to superimpose the idea, the pattern. So we create a contradiction between what is and what should be. What should be is the idea, the fiction, and so there is a conflict between the actual and the illusion - not in themselves, but in us. We like the illusion better than the actual; the idea is more appealing, more satisfying, and so we cling to it. Thus the illusion becomes the real and the actual becomes the false, and in this conflict between the so-called real and the so-called false we are caught.
Experience is always conditioning; the experiencer is ever separating and differentiating himself from experience. So there must be freedom from experience, from the desire to experience. Fulfilment is the way of covering up inward poverty, emptiness, and in fulfilment there is sorrow and pain.
https://www.oxbowschool.org/assets/gallery/os-26-final-projects/docs/nguyen.pdf
This school seem cool, in CA. "nguyen" seem Vmese accent.
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